Claude Thomas Gilmore

Other Events:

• Parents: 1900 marriage record names his parents as Joseph Gilmore and Carrie Booth.
• Census: 21 Jun 1880, Saginaw township, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gillmore, Joseph, white, male, 31, married, shingle mill foreman, Wisconsin, Ireland, Ireland 2. _____, Carry [Carrie], white, female, 24, wife, married, keeping house, Wisconsin, New York, New York 3. _____, Claude, white, male 7, son, Michigan, [father blank], [mother blank] [plus 8 boarders} Papst Papst Tebo Lee Barker Carpenter Duval Dungey
• Directory: 1892, 401 N. Granger, Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; "Gilmore, Claude T., lab, bds 401 N Granger, w. s." Same address with his father, Joseph Gilmore, filer.
• Census: 4 Jun 1900, Marion, Marion township, Osceola County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gilmore, Claude, head, white, male, November 1873, 26, married 0 years, Michigan, New York, New York, bookkeeper, can read and write, owns home 2. _____, Mary C., wife, white, female, April 1873, 27, married 0 years, 0 children, Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, can read and write
• Census: 4 May 1910, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gilmore, Claude T., head, male, white, 37, first marriage, married 10 years, Michigan, New York, New York, cigar business, own store, can read and write, renting house 2. _____, Katherine M., wife, female, white, 37, first marriage, married 10 years, 1 child 0 living, Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, can read and write 3. Wagner, Helen, mother in law, female, white, 62, widowed, 4 children 4 living, New York, Ireland, Ireland, can read and write
• Note: Sept 1918; Nearest relative on draft reg: Mrs. Viola Lucille Gilmore, 517 Brush St., Detroit, Michigan
• Occupation: Sep 1918; Barber shop, proprietor, shop at 1495 Woodward Avenue, Detroit

Claude married Cathrine Wagner on 18 Apr 1900 in Osceola County, Michigan, USA. Cathrine was born about 1874 in Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Married:
Town given for the marriage is Saginaw, though the county is Osceola. Saginaw does not appear ever to have been in Osceola County, or to be partly in Osceola County. The counties are adjacent and perhaps they were married in Saginaw, but the marriage registered in Osceola?

Both parties claim residence in Marion--there is a Marion township in both Saginaw and Osceola counties.

Other Events:

• Parents: Joseph's death certificate names his parents as "Thomas Gilmore" born in Ireland and "Unknown" also born in Ireland.
• Occupation: Nov 1870, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; Occupation at time of marriage: "Miller."
• Directory: 1873, S. Miller (S. of Nimons), East Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; "Gilmore, Joseph, shingle sawyer, res e s Miller, s of Nimons 2." [The "2," is presumably the number of people in the household, from studying other entries.]
• Occupation: 1873, East Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; "Shingle sawyer"
• Census: 21 Jun 1880, Saginaw township, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gillmore, Joseph, white, male, 31, married, shingle mill foreman, Wisconsin, Ireland, Ireland 2. _____, Carry [Carrie], white, female, 24, wife, married, keeping house, Wisconsin, New York, New York 3. _____, Claude, white, male 7, son, Michigan, [father blank], [mother blank] [plus 8 boarders} Papst Papst Tebo Lee Barker Carpenter Duval Dungey
• Directory: 1883, Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; "Gilmore, Joseph, foreman, res s s Jackson, 1 e of Granger, S C"
• Directory: 1892, 401 N. Granger, Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; "Gilmore, Joseph, filer, res 401 N Granger, w. s." Listed at the same address is his son Claude T. Gilmore, laborer.
• Census: 5 Jun 1900, Marion, Marion township, Osceola County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gillmore [Gilmore], Joseph, head, white, male, December 1848, 51, married 25 years, New York, Ireland, Ireland, proprietor, saw mill, can read and write, owns home free of mortgage 2. _____, Carrie [L.? T.?], wife, white, female, April 1854, 46, married 25 years, 2 children 1 living, New York, New York, New York, can read and write 3. DeJanes, Thad, boarder, white, male, February 1870, 30, [Single? Divorced?], Ohio, Ohio, Indiana, laborer, saw mill, can read and write
• Land: 15 Aug 1901, Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA; Real estate notice, Saginaw Evening News,:

  "Joseph Gilmore to Carrie L. Gilmore, lot 7, block 162, north of Cass street, $1,000."

• Census: 21 Apr 1910, Marion, Marion township, Osceola County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gilmore, Joseph head, male, white, 61, first marriage, married 38 years, New York, Ireland, Ireland, lumber man, in woods, own account, can read and write, owns house free of mortgage 2. _____, Carry L., wife, female, white, 53, first marriage, married 38 years, 2 children 1 living, Wisconsin, New York, New York, can read and write
• Census: 12 Jan 1920, 867 3rd St., Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA; 1. Gilmore, Joseph, head, owned, mortgage, male, white, 71, married, can read and write, New York, New York, New York, no occupation 2. _____, Carrie, wife, female, white, 64, married, can read and write, Wisconsin, New York, New York 3. _____, Claude, son, male, white, 33, single, can read and write, Michigan, New York, Wisconsin, proprietor, cigar store, own account

Notes:

Birth:
Joseph's death certificate gives his birth as 15 December 1858. There are several typos on the certificate (including the misspelling of "Wayne" County). Alternately, someone may have subtracted wrong.

Birthplace is difficult to read on the death certificate, but appears to have said "Unknown," which has been marked out. The second word is "Yok." I'm guessing the "New" was typed over "Unknown" and "Yok" should have been "York." As in birth in New York state.

The family was known to reside in New York state for a period from the time Charles (b 1846) was young, and Charles was still young when they moved back to Canada (see Charles's deposition in George W's pension file).

It is likely, given this fragile evidence, that Joseph was born in New York State.

Died:
Cerebral apoplexy.

Joseph married Carrie T. Booth on 25 Nov 1871 in Saginaw County, Michigan, USA. Carrie was born on 17 Nov 1855 in Wisconsin, USA; died on 13 Apr 1928 in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA; was buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Birth:
Death certificate shows birth in Wisconsin.

Notes:

Married:
That this is the right Joseph Gilmore is confirmed by his age, as well as by the fact that "Chas" Gilmore and Carrie L. Booth served as witnesses to the marriage of Charles W.Gilmore and Kate Eva Lovelock earlier in the year, also in Saginaw Co. It is clear that the witnesses name was recorded wrong, and should have been Joseph--since Charles could not have witnessed his own wedding.

Other Events:

• FHL: Rick, Could you check the following for Thomas Gilmore, born 1803, County Sligo, Ireland. Wife Mary/Maria Reed/Reid/Read. Immigrated from Ireland to NY or Canada about 1835-1842. He moved around, but was in Haldimand/Norfolk at one point. Variant spellings: Gilmor, Gillmore, Gilmore Ontario Land Records Land Books and Petitions Index Film Numbers film 1832376 Illustrated historical atlas of the counties of Haldimand and Norfolk 971.33 E3 Apparently gives landowners names, published in 1877 Gilmore and variants Ontario Genealogical Society, Wesleyan Methodist baptismal register, Haldimand County 1843-1896 : a transcription 971.337 K2 Parents Thomas and Mary/Maria Gilmore Jane Ann Gilmore, born 15 October 1844 Charles Wallace Gilmore, born 11 August 1846 Joseph Gilmore, born 15 December 1848 Robert Bertrand Nelles, County of Haldimand in the days of auld lang syne, 1905 971.337 H2 Loyalist families of the Grand River Branch, United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada 971.33 D2 Available digitally online, from an FHL affiliate or certain libraries Hill, Bold Cudmore, Marriage records 1838-1870 [i.e. 1859] of the Rev. Bold Cudmore Hill, M.A., S.P.G. missionary at York, Grand River ? 971.33 D2 For any Gilmore/Gillmore/Gilmor or variant, covering the full period Ontario Genealogical Society, Ancestry Charts 971.352 D2 40 vols. bound into 5 vols.(several bound together) Russell Harper, The early history of Haldimand County, 1950 971.337 H2 Cheryl MacDonald, Heritage highlights : stories from Haldimand and Norfolk, 971.33 H2 Originally published as newspaper columns Haldimand County Registrar of Deeds, Deeds and land records, 1788-1954

  Dunn township index, 1836-1876, film 171275 North Cayuga Township, index 1823-1875, film 171299 Oneida Township, index 1849-1879, film 171307 Rainham Township, index 1800-1876, film 171314 Seneca Township, index 1847-1876, film 171327 Sherbrooke Township, index 1827-1885, film 171352 South Cayuga Township, index 1837-1878, film 171322 Walpole Township, index 1798-1876, film 171337 Caledonia, index 1852-1878, film 171262 Canborough Township, index 1817-1877, film 171255 Cayuga, index 1838-1886, film 171267 S. M. Forbes, Obituary master index, Haldimand County CD-ROM no. 7883 Also available from an FHL computer, when at the FHL, catalog listing has a ?click here? Dan Walker and Robert W. Calder, Haldimand County marriage & burial registers, 1851-1865 971.337 V29 Haldimand County Marriages, 1803-1856 971.337 V2 Register of Births for the District of Niagara, 1848-1854, maintained by David Thorburn 971.3 V2 NORFOLK Wesleyan Methodist baptismal register, Norfolk County, 1837-1889 : a transcription 971.336 K29 A sketch of the county of Norfolk, Canada West [1857] 971.336 Ea73 Basically a list of landowners and residents, 1857 County of Norfolk, directory, 1867 : Norfolk Co. excerpts from Oxford and Norfolk Gazetteer & directory [excerpts from 1867] 971.336 E4 Index to Pioneer sketches of Long Point Settlement (by E. A. Owen) 971.336 D2

• RESEARCH: "Gilmor" in Tithe applotments: 1824, Jas Gilmor, Killmackowen townland, Kilmackowen Parish, County Sligo, landlord "Mrs. Fury"

  Just SW of Sligo, bottom side of the large peninsula where Sligo is located. In Griffith's evaluation a John Gilmor lived here (1858, Grace Blair landlord) http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/single_layer/i8.php?lat=&longt=&dum=0&sheet=20&mysession=2439683483206&info=&place=&county=SLIGO&placename=KILMACOWEN&parish=KILMACOWEN&country=Ireland&union=&barony=CARBURY

• RESEARCH:

  Luana Darby response to research request for FHL:

  "Janis, Some of these sources were unavailable until today. I have now finished and sadly need to tell you that I found nothing for Thomas Gilmore/Gillmore or any other variation of the name in ANY of your requested searches. I kept hoping that one would pop up, but I found nothing ? time for searches was 40 minutes on the nose. Luana From: Janis L Gilmore [mailto:janis.gilmore@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:31 PM To: Luana Darby Subject: FHL search Hi, Luana, Do you have time to find the following for me? Search for Thomas Gilmore/Gillmore/Gilmore, in the following: Crown Land Register, Oxford County, 971.346 R2 Oxford County, INDEX 1800-1847, microfilm no. 169768 If there are listings for Thomas Gilmore in the above, please make copies of each deed W. G. Wonham, Tremaine?s Map of Oxford County, Canada West, 971.346 E7; description says it names landowners. Probate books no. 5-6 (1881-1887), film no. 484883, for Thomas Gilmore/Gillmore/Gilmore, died 16 February 1887, South Norwich, Oxford Co, Ontario, Can If not found in the above check Probate books no. 7-8 (1887-1893) 484884, for Thomas Gilmore/Gillmore/Gilmore, died 16 February 1887, South Norwich, Oxford Co, Ontario, Can Just let me know! Janis"

• RESEARCH:

  Message, Spring 2013, from Cathi Becker Wiest Desmairis, Certified Genealogist, via FaceBook:

  "I looked at the Anglican church records available, and they start quite late in County Sligo, for the most part. I did some searching in the IFHF church record indexes and I didn't find anything early enough for your Gilmores. There were Thomases and Georges, but they were later than yours. I did find only ONE Thomas Gilmor in the tithe applotment records in County Sligo. He was listed in 1833, which makes the timing right for your Thomas who married prior to 1829. He lived in the Townland of Barnacoghil, in Parish Templeboy, County Sligo. This might be your husband's ancestor. This townland is very small and close to the ocean. Check Google maps. There is an 1839 Directory of the Towns of Sligo and others, but this might just be the major towns. It might be worth looking for that when you are there. The *best* Irish records are the landlords' estate records. The rent rolls that some of these contain are golden. There were Reid/Reed families in County Sligo also. Parish Toomour had both Gilmore and Reed families, which is significant. Kidney/Kidny/Kedney is a very unusual Irish name. Most of them came from County Cork. Perhaps she married in Canada. Given the early time period they left, their religion, and the fact that you've already consulted others, I don't know that I can add much more. Many of the Anglican records were destroyed in 1922. In Sligo the Catholic records are better. If you've exhausted everything on this side of the pond, including searching for the neighbors' Irish origins, then it would probably take some serious digging in any landlords records to hope to find anything. I did find that the name stems from Mac Giolla Mhir. Several of the Gilmore families in the tithe applotment records used the given name Gowan. That is a Scottish surname. When you are there, particularly in Parish Templeboy and Parish Toomour, don't be afraid to ask for local folks named Gilmore. Let me know if you decide to go to Doolin in County Clare and I will give you the B&B name. Cath"

• RESEARCH: Brantford Public Library Brant County OGS Library
• RESEARCH: From John C. McTernan, Sligo Sources of Local History (Sligo: Sligo County Library, 1988), "Estate Records" p. 62, Killala Estate, Rental of the May and Sligo Estates of the Lord Bishop of Killala, c. 1810 Ref. F. F./R. 31 p. 77 E. Mac Hale, The Parishes of the Diocese of Killala: Part IV: The Barony of Tireragh (Ballina: n.p., 1985) Church of Ireland records in Sligo for Castleconor Parish start in 1800 for b, m, & d. They are held locally and at the National Archives of Ireland, microfilm ref. no. 33. Have a researcher check this? All indexed by Sligo Heritage and Genealogical Society.
• RESEARCH: Hugh Gilmor, 1851 Canada census, Horton, Renfrew County, Canada West. Born about 1827 County Sligo, Ireland. Sister Mary Gilmor. http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e095/e002369053.jpg
• RESEARCH: Ireland travel blog of Brian Gilmore. Mentions that his Gilmores originate in Tubercurry, which is on the western side of Sligo that could have been in the diocese of Killala and Achonry. https://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Ireland/County-Sligo/blog-412762.html Wrote to Brian via his travel blog, which is quite old (2009), so who knows? Also wrote to what I think may be his mother, at the only email address that Veromi associated with Brian: marcrl6@aol.com Veromi offers this current number for Brian (770) 781-9916. He lives in Georgia. Brother is Stefan (mentioned in blog).
• RESEARCH: McGill University collection of county atlases, published between 1874-1881, offering an every-name searchable database of owners in that period, digital images of specific tracts, etc. Amazing site. Several possible James Gilmores, no possible Thomas Gilmore.
• RESEARCH: Obtain these articles from the Brantford Expositor: Mrs. Jane Ann Hurlburt, Brantford Expositor, 8 September 1921, p. 6, col. 1. [Note in index says, also see p. 12, col. 1; also the edition of 10 September 1921, p. 6, col. 5] John Hurlburt, Brantford Expositor, 19 April 1920, p. 2, col. 5; also, same date, p. 3, col. 7 and p. 11, col. 7 John Hurlburt, Brantford Expositor, 21 April 1920, p. 6, col. 2 T. T. Gillmore, Brantford Expositor, 9 September 1870, p. 3, see ?Middleport?
• HISTORICAL: 1791, Upper Canada; The province of Quebec was divided into two provinces: Upper Canada and Lower Canada.
• HISTORICAL: 1798; Irish Rebellion

  Engendered by the Society of United Irishmen, est. 1791, uniting Presbyterians, Catholics, and Dissenters against English control of Irish political affairs. Events came to a head with the open, armed rebellion of 1798. The rebellion was put down and resulted in the Union of Ireland and Britain in 1801.

• RESEARCH: 1800, Diocese of Killala and Achonry;

  Marriage of a Thomas Gillmor and Mary Grier, same Diocese as Thomas Gilmor and Mary Read, in 1800--the right year for Thomas's 1803 birth. Possible?

• HISTORICAL: 1801; Union of Ireland and Britain. Irish MPs and Peers joined the British Parliament. The Irish parliament was abolished. At the same time, the Church of Ireland was combined with the Church of England to become the Church of England and Ireland. As the official church of Ireland, it was supported by "tithe" or tax. Roman Catholics resented paying a tithe to support the state church.
• RESEARCH: 1833, Tully townland, Castleconnor Parish, County Sligo, Ireland;

  Tithe applotments show a James Gilmore next to a Robert Reid and sons and a James Gilmore next to William Reid. Townland Tullylinn, County Sligo, Killalla Diocese, Castleconnor parish General Alphabetical Index to the Townlands and Towns, Parishes, and Baronies of Ireland . . . Poor Law Valuation in 1851 (Dublin: Alexander Thom, 1861)

  • states that Tullylin townland is also known as Ballyfeenan.
  • County Sligo, Barony Tireragh, Parish Castleconor
  • Poor Law Union 1857: Dromore West
  • Townland census 1851m, Part 1: IV:232
  • Ord. Survey Map, sheets 17, 18

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  Residence: 1833, Barnacoghill townland, Templeboy Parish, County Sligo, Ireland; A "Thos Gilmor" occupied a farm n the Barnacoghill townlands. This may have been our Thomas Gilmore, as we know he was married in 1828 in the parish of Killala and Achonry, nearby.

  • County Sligo
  • Barony Tireragh
  • Templeboy Parish
  • Poor Law Union, Dromore West
  • Townland census 1851, part 1, IV:236
  • Ordinance survey map, sheets 12, 18

  RESEARCH: 1836, Belleville, Ontario, Canada; A George W. Gilmore, filed a land petition in Belleville, 1836. He was married to Elizabeth Watson, the daughter of Robert Watson. Robert was charged with murder and deeded, by gift, his land to his daughter Elizabeth and her husband George W. Gilmore. Robert Watson's son William was also charged for the same murder. Robert was convicted and hanged and William was found innocent. William claimed his father's land, based on the fact that his father thought they were both going to jail or death. George petitioned the courts to retain the land because it was legally deeded, he had maintained it, and he had borne much of the expense of their trials. He was allowed to keep the land. Could this George W. Gilmore be a brother to Thomas Gilmore? The name and the era make it possible. A long shot, but worth remembering. George's petition was found indexed online at Library and Archives Canada, searching the index "Land Petitions of Upper Canada, 1763-1865" for "Gilmor." The results reflected: Gilmore, George W., Belleville (place), 1836 (year), vol. 212, bundle G 19, petition no. 56, reference RG 1 L3, microfilm no. C-2035. Robert's original petition, Belleville (place) 1821 (year), vol. 529, bundle W 13, petition 20, RG 1 L3, microfilm no. C-2954. Digitally, his short is at image 987. Robert Watson had a second petition, Belleville (place), 1828 (year), vol. 530A, bundle W 15, petition no. 40 RG 1 L3, microfilm no. C-2956. Begins at image no. 560. Found in marriage records, William S. Gilmore, age 39, born in Canada, marriage in April 1882, Ontario, to Coombs. His parents' names are given as George W. and Elizabeth Gilmore--likely the son of the above Gilmore. [https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7921/images/ONMS932_45-0472]

  Immigration: 1840; Compiled evidence indicates the family came between 1839 (Maria's birth in Ireland) and 1842 (Thomas's birth in Canada). Additionally, the Cairns book (Roy Cairns, history of the Cairns family, including Samuel Cairns and wife Maria Gilmour), states that Maria immigrated with her family when she was 9 months old and the journey took 9 weeks. Since she was born in August 1839, that puts their date of immigration at roughly May-June 1841. They seem to have left County Sligo when it was at its peak, before the Great Famine of 1845-1847. The population of the county peaked in 1841 at 181,000. By 1851, due to the Famine, population had dropped to 50,000. Often, origins can be determined by family religion. The Presbyterians were usual former Scots, while other protestants were generally of English descent. Native Irish and Normans were usually Catholic. Sligo has always been primarily agricultural, though it was also an important port in the 1700s and 1800s.

  HISTORICAL: 1841, Province of Canada; Upper and Lower Canada are united as the Province of Canada.

  Residence: 7 Apr 1842, Scarborough, York County, Ontario, Canada; Thomas Gilmore was born on this date, and his deposition claims his birth was in Scarborough. In 1850 Scarborough became a township. It later (much later) became a municipality in the new Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto, then still later was incorporated as a city. Today it is no longer an individual municipality, but is part of the amalgamated city of Toronto. Records available for Scarborough are later than the known residence of the Gilmore family:

  Council proceedings from 1850 Assessment rolls from 1853

  HISTORICAL: 1844, Haldimand County, Ontario, Canada, USA; In 1844 the Haldimand Tract was surrendered by Six Nations [Indian cession?] to the Crown.

  Residence: 15 Oct 1844, Haldimand County, Ontario, Province of Canada; Jane Ann claimed birth in Dunnville, Haldimand County.

  Residence: 11 Aug 1846, Brantford, Brant County, Ontario, Canada; At the time of son Charles' birth. Charles named Brantford, Ontario, as his place of birth in 1846. The town of Brantford was created in 1847, but was probably a village previous to that time. However, Brant Co wasn't created until 1851, from Wentworth and Halton counties.

  Possible Census: 1851, Clark, Durham County, Canada West; On Lot 3, Concession 6, appears to be an agricultural census only, no family members, only heads, and info on cultivation, etc.

  Census: 1861, Walsingham township, Norfolk County, Canada

  Census: 1861, Township One, South Norwich, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada;

  1. Gilmore, Thos., farmer, Ireland, NC Methodist [New Connexions Methodist], 58, male, frame house, 1 story 2. _____, Maria, wife, Ireland, NC Methodist, 56, female 3. _____, Jane A., daughter, Canada W[est], NC Methodist, 16, female 4. _____, Charles, son, C. W., NC Methodist, 15, male, attending school 6. _____, Joseph, son, C. W., NC Methodist, 13, male, attending school 7. _____, Maria, daughter, C. W., NC Methodist, 5, female [5-year-old Maria is the daughter of James Gilmore, who lived with her grandparents; daughter Maria had apparently left home]

  Directory: 1862, South Norwich, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada; "Gillmore, Thos." Concession 11, Lot 6. In the 1875-1876 gazetteer (see citation), Con 11, Lot 6 was owned by "J. Gilmore." Above him in Con 11 L 2 was landowner "J. Foreman." Possibly Theresa's husband's family? Listed in "Con" 11 "L" 4: Geo. Sommers Listed in "Con" 11 "L" 7:John Sommers

  HISTORICAL: 1867, Canada West; Canada became a dominion in the British Commonwealth, by the British North America Act. The Province of Canada was split into Canada West/Ouest and Canada East (Est). Canada West later began calling itself Ontario,. The capital of Canada West (Ontario) was York, which later changed its name to Toronto. New Brunswick and Nova Scotia added to the Dominion.

  Census: 1871, Township South Norwick, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada

  Census: 1881, South Norwich, Oxford, Ontario, Canada; 1. Gillmore, Jas. [Thomas?], male, 78, born Ireland, Church of England, origins Irish, farmer, married 2. _____, Mary, female, 73, Ireland, Church of England, Irish, married 3. Forman, Wallace, male, 26, born U.S., Methodist C.C., origins U.S., laborer, married 4. _____, Thresa [Theresa], 24, Ont., Meth E, Irish, married [A Forman family earlier on census page, and a Forman family immediately follows this one.]

  DNA note: 5 Jul 2014, 23 & Me;

  Calvin shares a 42 cM match on chromosome 1 with Denise Plunkett, on 23&Me. Her email:

  "Hi Janis, I think my DNA connection with your husband would be back around Sligo, Roscommon, or Mayo. My paternal great grandparents were all from Roscommon. My paternal grandmother's parents James Elwood, b. 1807 & Mary Beirne, b. 1812 were from around Croghan, Co. Roscommon. My paternal grandfather's parents were Thomas Plunkett, b. abt 1818 and Elizabeth McDermottroe, b. abt. 1820. They were married in Ballaghaderreen, Co. Roscommon, however at the time of their marriage in 1841 the Mayo / Roscommon went through Ballaghaderreen, and Sligo is only a mile or two away. Elizabeth McDermott(roe)'s mother was a Elizabeth Costello, b. abt. 1800, thought to be from Sligo. I think all my great-grandparents emigrated in the 1840s, except for Elizabeth McDermottroe Plunkett. Her four children were born during the famine, 1842-1849, and according to my grandfather's obit, they emigrated after his father died in Ireland, when my grandfather was about 9 yrs. (1856). They went to the area around Downie, Perth Co., Ontario in the mid 1850s, to join Elizabeth's McDermott family. By 1870 my ggrandmother must have died in Canada and the four children moved to Iowa. Here is what I found checking genomes, I also checked them with my brother John and nephew Christopher: Comparison Half IBD # segments George Calvin Gilmore vs. Denise Plunkett 41 cM 1 (We matched on chromosome # 1) George Calvin Gilmore vs. John Plunkett 0 cM 0 George Calvin Gilmore vs. Christopher Plunkett 0 cM 0 _______________________ Janis, you sound very knowledgable about genetic genealogy. Last week someone I matched with gave me the name of a book: Genetic Genealogy by Mary Aulicino. I ordered it from Amazon, it is very recent, compares the companies 23 & Me, FTDNA and Ancestry, I joined all three around December. I hope I can get a better understanding of the basics! Thank you for the information you shared. Denise Plunkett" Beirne, Costello, Elwood, Kelsh, McDermott, McDermottroe, McGovern, O'Connor, O'Reilly, Reilly, Plunket, Plunkett, Powderly, Sullivan

Notes:

Comparing map of diocese in County Sligo:
Tuam, Killala and Achonry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocese_of_Tuam,_Killala_and_Achonry#/media/File:C_of_I_Diocese_of_Tuam,_Killala_and_Achonry.png

And parishes that fall within County Sligo:
http://www.sligoroots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/county-sligo-parish-map.jpg

The parishes that appear to be in both that diocese and County Sligo are (with Civil Parish name first, and Church of Ireland parish name in parentheses):
Ballysadare (Ballysodare)
Kilvarnet (Ballysodare)
Emlaghfad (Emlaghfad & Kilmorgan) bmd1762
Kilshalvy (Kilfree & Killaraght or Gurteen) b1878
Kilturra (Emlaghfad & Kilmorgan) bmd 1762
Cloonoghil (Achonry)
Killoran (Killoran or Rathbarron) m1845
Dromard (Dromard or Beltra?) m 1845
Skreen (Skreen) m1846, others far too late
Achonry (Achonry) m 1845, no other
Templeboy (Kilmachshalgan)
Kilmacshalgan (Kilmacshalgan) m1840, bd far too late
Kilmacteige (Kilmacteige) bmd too late
Kilmoremoy (Mayo?)
Castleconnor (Killanley) mdb begin 1834
Kilglass (Kilglass) bmd too late
Easky (Easkey) mdb, begin 1822

Records chart found at
http://www.sligoroots.com/sources/church-records/church-of-ireland-records/


Castleconor Parish records--Catholic or Church of Ireland?
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlsli/castelconnoropen.html

No Gilmore or Kidney among these baptism records

Birth:

Age calculated from 1887 death certificate giving his age as 84.

RESEARCH:
Death cert of William S. Gilmore verifies that his mother was Elizabeth Watson, but indicates his father's birth in the U.S., mother in Ireland.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2701161:8946


Death cert of William S. Gilmore verifies that his mother was Elizabeth Watson, but indicates his father's birth in the U.S., mother in Ireland.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2701161:8946


Census:

[number preceding name is line number on the page]
37. Gillmore, Mary, born Upper Canada, "W. M." [church affiliation], age 7, 1 female member of the family, attending school
38. Gillmore, James, Timber Maker, Ireland, "W. M.," 32, 1 male, married, 1 male of the family, [female?] member of household
39. Gillmore, Thomas, [occupation blank, probably intended to repeat "Timber Maker," above?], Ireland, C. S. [church affiliation], Norwich [residence if out of limits], 61, male, married, male not of household
40. Cambell, Edward, [occupation blank, probably intended to repeat "Timber Maker," above?], France, Roman Catholic, Montreal, 36, married, male not member of family
41. Whitehead, George, [occupation blank, probably intended to repeat "Timber Maker," above?], United States, Baptist, Windham, 28, male, single, male not of household
42. Gillmore, Thomas, [occupation blank, probably intended to repeat "Timber Maker," above?], U. C. [Upper Canada], C. S. [Church of Scotland], Norwich, 18, male, single, male not of household
43. Gillmore, Emiline, U. C. [Upper Canada], W. M. [Wesleyan Methodist], 34, female, married, female not of household

[Well above them, line 24, is another Thomas Gillmore, laborer, born in Upper Canada, C. England [Church of England], Midelton [Middleton], 19, male, single, male not of household]

Directory:
James Gilmore bought this property in 1858, and apparently his father and siblings were living there. Probably the same property where Thomas Gilmore was living in the 1871 census with James' daughter Theresa.


Census:

1. Gillmore, Thomas, male, 68, Ireland [born], Church of England, Irish [origin], farmer, married
2. _____, Mary, female, 63, Ireland, Church of England, Irish, married
3. _____, Thressa [Theresa?], female, 14, Ontario, Church of England, Irish, attending school

Thomas married Mary Reed in 1828 in Diocese of Killala and Achonry, County Sligo, Ireland. Mary was born about 1808 in County Sligo, Ireland; died on 26 May 1885 in South Norwich, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Name:

Daughter Jane Ann (Gilmore) Hurlbert's death certificate named her parents as "Thomas Gilmour" and "Mary Reed," both born in Ireland.

Son Thomas Gilmore's 1863 marriage to Charlotte Armstrong named his parents as "Tomas Gilmore" and "Maria Reed."

Birth:

Year of birth calculated from death certificate which did not give birthdate, but gave age as 77.

Notes:

Married:

Note on the transcription website:

"From medieval times it was required that notification of intention to marriage be given on three consecutive Sundays in church (called publishing the banns). But, as an alternative, members of the Church of Ireland could take out a Marriage Licence Bond. The parties lodged an amount of money with the Diocese to indemnify the Church against there being an obstacle to the marriage. This marriage by licence provided privacy, and was faster than the time taken to read the banns. It was considered more prestigious than having the banns read. The bonds themselves were destroyed in the Fires of 1922, but the indexes remain in the National Archives of Ireland. After 1845 marriages were registered by the State, and are available to researchers. This diocese is in Co. Mayo and Co. Sligo."

Children: James Gilmore was born on 1 Oct 1829; died on 20 Sep 1878 in Elgin County, Ontario, Canada; was buried on 21 Sep 1878 in Methodist Episcopal Church Cemetery, Otterville, Oxford County, Ontario. George W. Gilmore was born on 25 Jun 1837 in County Sligo, Ireland; died on 14 Nov 1910 in Lanton, Howell County, MIssouri, USA. Maria Gilmore was born on 6 Aug 1839 in Ireland; died on 9 Feb 1900; was buried in Campbellville Burying Ground, Campbellville, Halton Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada. Thomas Gilmore was born on 7 Apr 1842 in Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario, Canada; died on 29 Dec 1919 in Middleton township, Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in "Lyndock" [possibly "Lynedoch"] Cemetery, Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada. Jane Ann Gilmore was born on 15 Oct 1844 in Dunnville, Haldimand County, Ontario, USA; died on 7 Sep 1921 in 215 Sheridan, Brantford, Brant County, Ontario, USA; was buried in Mt. Hope Cemetery, Brant County, Ontario, USA. Charles Wallace Gilmore was born on 11 Aug 1846 in Norwich, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada; died on 13 May 1911. 2. Joseph Gilmore was born on 15 Dec 1848 in New York, USA; died on 16 Oct 1925 in 360 4th Ave., Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA; was buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan, USA.

Unknown married [Mother of Thomas] [Gilmore]. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]